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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Forsma on 2nd November 2010, 13:24

Karasem Population: 23,454,900
Karasem GDP percapita: AINERO 929
Karasem National budget: AINERO 2,771,022,100
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Blakeway4 on 2nd November 2010, 13:32

MiguelLeal wrote:Fairview has the right to keep 35% of ERC budget

hmm, why? Syldavia will watch this very carefully, the future of ERC isn't to be occuped, but to be free. :scratch: :scratch:


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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by MiguelLeal on 2nd November 2010, 19:35

The reason for the 35% were decided with ERC and Dryan. ERC is totally free.
The north part of ERC is just a dependency of Fairview.
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Blakeway4 on 2nd November 2010, 19:42

MiguelLeal wrote:The reason for the 35% were decided with ERC and Dryan.

Ok... Does this was made public to the Alliance?

MiguelLeal wrote:ERC is totally free.
The north part of ERC is just a dependency of Fairview.

LOL, that's not free... Wink
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by MiguelLeal on 3rd November 2010, 16:55

Yes it was, 976 said it in this topic.
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Post by woodb3kmaster on 3rd November 2010, 22:36

I was tempted not to believe you at first, but then I went back to page 2 and found this post from Dryan:
976 wrote:Starfishland population : 12,458,458
GDP Percapita : US $43,999
Budget : US $548,139,543,000

For ERC: 20% gone because chaos, 35% for Fairview as taken northern part, 45% for Tirnreich as taken Southern part
Therefore, Fairview's claim is valid.

As for Lower Columbia, I have an update. Due to recent domestic policy changes, the Federal Kingdom's GDP per capita has increased to US$43,561 / :AINERO: 14,520.33, giving a new total GDP of $2,165,417,310,000 when combined with the September 2010 population estimate found on LCO's wiki infobox. With the current AINERO exchange rate, that comes out to :AINERO: 721,805,770,000.

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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by emgmod on 4th November 2010, 07:28

Fairview's new budget is temporarily added. However, I think 35% of East Rockcoast (about equal to 35% of Canada) wouldn't survive if the whole thing went to chaos. Who else thinks that it's a bit too big?

Everyone else added.
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Thomas on 4th November 2010, 17:10

I think that's far too big.

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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by MiguelLeal on 4th November 2010, 18:19

Yes it is. But it is a right gived from ERC . The money will be used to the reconstruction of ERC.
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by emgmod on 5th November 2010, 06:32

How about this. If you can plausibly explain how you can earn money by taking over a country other than pillaging, you can keep the money.
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by MiguelLeal on 5th November 2010, 14:40

Ok.
So, how we all know that ERC was divided and integrated in different countries. If the northern part of ERC is now a part of Fairview, it is not the ERC anymore, the region is now administrated by Fairview government and it is a part of Fairview so the GDP of the northern old ERC that was 35% of the budget of the all country is integrated in Fairview GDP. For example, how Azores is a Portuguese island, Azores budget is integrated in the Portugal one, so how Northern ERC is a Fairviewense territory/island the budget is integrated in the Fairvie one.
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Thomas on 5th November 2010, 16:54

I am seriously annoyed with East Rockcoast now. Can you please sort it out within the next week otherwise I will just declare it gone.
It's really frustrating me and I want this resolved now, otherwise I'll have to propose a ban on this kind of situation happening - the handover of countries has worked before, with Rhodes, and this entire handover is just messy and needs sorting out, because it's ridiculous.

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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Blakeway4 on 5th November 2010, 17:29

I agree with Thomas on this. :bounce:
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Post by Neil on 5th November 2010, 17:55

Right, so what exactly is happening with East Rockcoast? Nobody seems to know what is going on it is getting extremely frustrating. Please sort it out and clarify what is going on or else I will be asking for it to be excluded from mention in the union.
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by MiguelLeal on 5th November 2010, 18:21

ERC doesn't exist anymore. The problem is that in the south and centre are some countries discussing the territories.
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Thomas on 5th November 2010, 18:24

We mean ERC as a land mass. If this issue of territory is not resolved sharpish, I will just say that it should be dissolved and no longer exist. This entire situation is a disorganised train wreck, and needs to be stopped.

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Post by emgmod on 8th November 2010, 03:39

MiguelLeal wrote: Ok.
So, how we all know that ERC was divided and integrated in different countries. If the northern part of ERC is now a part of Fairview, it is not the ERC anymore, the region is now administrated by Fairview government and it is a part of Fairview so the GDP of the northern old ERC that was 35% of the budget of the all country is integrated in Fairview GDP. For example, how Azores is a Portuguese island, Azores budget is integrated in the Portugal one, so how Northern ERC is a Fairviewense territory/island the budget is integrated in the Fairvie one.
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by ForthWall on 8th November 2010, 03:46

Haha Thats funny

But it is true, even though this wasn't a war, it still took money to fix and repair damages, and also since you have a para military, it could cost more then having a military.
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Blakeway4 on 8th November 2010, 22:04

Daniel, that's your "plan"? I thought it'll be more... professional? Wink hehe, but still getting the message!
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Evillions on 8th November 2010, 23:46

Onubis Federation:

$24,291 per captia = 8097 :AINERO:
15,682,492 = Population of The Onubis Federation (2010)
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126,981,137,724 = USD

Conversion on the bottom.

42,327,045,908 :AINERO:
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by emgmod on 9th November 2010, 08:38

Onubis added.

Informal vote time: Should Fairview revert to the old budget of :AINERO: 27 billion?
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by MiguelLeal on 9th November 2010, 08:50

I think you shouldn't because this was a part of agreement between Fairview, ERC and Tirnreich and the others countries don't have nothing with this, we keep with a part of ERC how the government of ERC showed interest. And of course, we didn't invaded ERC , we send help ( very different) and then how ERC didn't have any government, Fairview and Tirnreich keep with two distinted parts of ERC. The other countries should give opinion but still limited to see the the agreements between this 3 countries, because this is not with the other countries.
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Thomas on 9th November 2010, 17:07

I want ERC just deleted completely, and the budget cut down to the previous amount.

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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Luug on 17th November 2010, 22:35

Hello!

Seems that there has been problems with calculating national budgets, if I may clarify a few things:

GDP = The total revenue (price) of products and services produced (sold to people & organisations in the country and to other countries). This number is usually very high!

National budget: Planned money usage for governmental organisations. Budgets are "never" exact, as they consist of revenue and expenditure of the state and can easily have deficit or surplus depending on government spending and investments.

Government incomes are usually categorised in three types: Tax payments, Non-tax payments (revenue from state owned corporations, fines and fees, sales of government assets, etc.) and borrowing.

Government expenditure is also usually split in three parts: investments, transfer payments (e.g. social security payments) and operational costs (wages and material/service consumptions).

Examples of national budgets representing percentage of national GDP.
Australia: 31,3%
Nordics: 50% - 55%
UAE: 23,9%
Brazil: 22,5%
Russia: 18,4%
China: 20,4%
Canada: 38,5%
India: 12,4%
South-Africa: 29,1%
South Korea: 24,0%

To find out percentage of country of your choosing divide this (CIA figure) with this.

Finally, the GDP and national budget of New Altai Republic! Smile):

GDP (2010 nominal estimate): 403.5 bn сом / 26.4 bn US$ / 8.8 bn :AINERO:
National budget (-|Sleepy: 90.74 bn сом / 5 936 800 000 US$ / 1.979 bn :AINERO:
(bn = billion = 1,000,000,000.00)
1 сом = 0.0053275 (approx) <=> 1 :AINERO: = 187.71 сом (approx)
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Re: National Budgets V2

Post by Blakeway4 on 17th November 2010, 23:10

SYLDAVIA
GDP (2010 nominal estimate): 297.7 bn § | 229 bn US$ | 76.3 bn :AINERO:
National budget: 44.655 bn § | 34 350 000 000 US$ | 11.45 bn :AINERO:
15% of GDP = Syldavian Budget

§=Syldavian Dollar Sign
1.3§ = 1 US$ = 0.333... :AINERO:

I used Luug's technique!
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