VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
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MiguelLeal
hiigarar
JJ
woodb3kmaster
Daniel
Jo
Kevin
Thomas
Blakeway4
Spy9600
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Should this proposal be approved?
VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
Goal: Allow Minor Unions and Alliances that would massively improve roleplay, and increase AIN's weight on decisions taken in Summits, for example.
Concepts:
Approving this would basically result in allowing members to create their own regional blocs, making roleplays and news much more integrated and diverse, and so improving and making roleplay easier and cleaner...
Also, this Set/System would create conditions for certain agreements and would bring definetively AIN Departments and Ministries to the Roleplay. We would now assume that JJ, The Minister for MCAS is from Ascadylea, for example.
We can only advance in this concept once you ask/state what you think of it until now...
What do you say?
Concepts:
Approving this would basically result in allowing members to create their own regional blocs, making roleplays and news much more integrated and diverse, and so improving and making roleplay easier and cleaner...
Also, this Set/System would create conditions for certain agreements and would bring definetively AIN Departments and Ministries to the Roleplay. We would now assume that JJ, The Minister for MCAS is from Ascadylea, for example.
We can only advance in this concept once you ask/state what you think of it until now...
What do you say?
Spy9600- Counsel
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
I agree with this proposal. Great idea Spy Glad you posted it!
Blakeway4- International Bigwig
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I agree with this proposal. I think the EDA is a great starting bloc for a pan-European association. We could, if this works, make each of the regions a bloc: eg: Europe becomes European Association, or whatever the name would be.
This has great potential.
This has great potential.
Thomas- Overlord of Eurasia
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I think this is a great idea
Kevin- Prime Minister
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
I like the idea behind this..
Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
Hmmm.... sceptical.
Daniel- On Leave
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
So am I. I can easily see blocs going to war with each other if we're not careful about how they can interact. I'm also doubtful about how the blocs would affect roleplay (what effect does the EDA have on it, for example?).
woodb3kmaster- Permanent Secretary
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
we kinda have this already... but this will roll it out union wide... me-likey!
JJ- Permanent Secretary
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
The EDA hasn't been used to it's full potential yet, and is mainly a defence group, which means it's only really useful in warfare. These blocs and alliances will cover economics, defence, regional legislature and much more, and obviously have more potential than the EDA does.
And having entire blocs going to war is a) unimaginative, b) overused and c) unrealistic - how many times did NATO and the Warsaw Pact actually have battles? It was mostly diplomatic conflicts and spats.
And having entire blocs going to war is a) unimaginative, b) overused and c) unrealistic - how many times did NATO and the Warsaw Pact actually have battles? It was mostly diplomatic conflicts and spats.
Thomas- Overlord of Eurasia
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I still don't like it.
Daniel- On Leave
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
Well... Why don;t you like it, Daniel? There has to be a reason why
Kevin- Prime Minister
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I like it, Hiigaran Confederacy has created an alliance to counter EDA and can be a great potentiol for role-play conflicts/
hiigarar- Ambassador At Large
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
Wars?
Nanananana no.
1. Minor Blocs would firstly be avaliated by the MFA to recognize or not its roleplaying potential.
2. Minor Blocs could open a series of other events and updates, like 'EDA' Music Contest, or the 'XBloc' Festival of Gastronomy or the 'YSummit', or the 'ZRegional Games'
3. EDA didn't have *that* effects on roleplays because we don't know what we can and what we cannot do in these alliances. The way it is the only thing we can do is Military-Related blocs, of mutual defense or somekind of military cooperation. This could group nations of similar cultures into many festivals, contests, joint crisis updates (Like YBloc Countries to face economic problems') - which would even encourage new types of updates.
4. Not all of the blocs need to be as integrated as EU. You would be free to create Economic/Civil only Blocs Like MercoSouth and NAFTA.
It is easier for AIN to have wars among members the way it is now - Limiting them to Military Alliances - than with this new resolution.
AIN does not prevent Military Alliances. Why can't we allow Cultural, Economic and Civic Blocs too? Why can't we have AIN to go to a higher level so that it can be really present in all levels? And also, with the Security Conceal, wars could be disapproved by AIN. Consequeces for disobeying AIN with non-sense and unrealistic wars could go from heavy Alliance-Level sanctions to downgrading of Membership Status or Bans for GodModding.
EDIT:
Basically, depending on the complexity of the Bloc, they would need to Apply to be recognized into AIN-Defined Tolerance levels.
Nanananana no.
1. Minor Blocs would firstly be avaliated by the MFA to recognize or not its roleplaying potential.
2. Minor Blocs could open a series of other events and updates, like 'EDA' Music Contest, or the 'XBloc' Festival of Gastronomy or the 'YSummit', or the 'ZRegional Games'
3. EDA didn't have *that* effects on roleplays because we don't know what we can and what we cannot do in these alliances. The way it is the only thing we can do is Military-Related blocs, of mutual defense or somekind of military cooperation. This could group nations of similar cultures into many festivals, contests, joint crisis updates (Like YBloc Countries to face economic problems') - which would even encourage new types of updates.
4. Not all of the blocs need to be as integrated as EU. You would be free to create Economic/Civil only Blocs Like MercoSouth and NAFTA.
It is easier for AIN to have wars among members the way it is now - Limiting them to Military Alliances - than with this new resolution.
AIN does not prevent Military Alliances. Why can't we allow Cultural, Economic and Civic Blocs too? Why can't we have AIN to go to a higher level so that it can be really present in all levels? And also, with the Security Conceal, wars could be disapproved by AIN. Consequeces for disobeying AIN with non-sense and unrealistic wars could go from heavy Alliance-Level sanctions to downgrading of Membership Status or Bans for GodModding.
EDIT:
Basically, depending on the complexity of the Bloc, they would need to Apply to be recognized into AIN-Defined Tolerance levels.
Spy9600- Counsel
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
Well, In a first seeing it looks like an extremely planned and very good idea.
MiguelLeal- Chancellor
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
Can't countries just do this anyway? Why do we all need to agree that it should happen? If you want to form an economic bloc with someone, go right ahead. Just don't expect Arcacia to join in.
Daniel- On Leave
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No Daniel, we are agreeing that it can happen, and how it is tolerable by AIN. Im not allowing blocs like "ECMBDOC Economic Civil and Military Bloc to Destroy Other Countries" (After Africville, I expect everything.). This will let everybody else know what are the possibilities and what is acceptable or not by AIN. If you don't want your country to enter any blocs, fine, but many other members see this as a potential form of integration and roleplay, and so here I am trying to organize the way such blocs and communities would work to avoid random-created or uncapable divisions from being created.
Spy9600- Counsel
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The person who thought of war at first just didn't get what is all behind it... You violent people --> I understand it better now Spy. thnx
Blakeway4- International Bigwig
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
Pretty nice idea Spy!
I would seeking forward to see the Asian Bloc...
I would seeking forward to see the Asian Bloc...
Spy9600- Counsel
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As Arcacia doesn't seem to want to be part in this and maybe LCO, I guess it can be adopted by the nations that will sign it below? 'Cause a poll will be confusing.
Syldavia will sign this resolution/treaty/act.
Syldavia will sign this resolution/treaty/act.
Blakeway4- International Bigwig
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
I will support this all the way and help set it up - if particular nations don't want to be involved, then obviously they don't have to and the region that they are in will lose out on a member. If the entire region (North America, for example) don't want to be part of a bloc, then there won't be a bloc there.
Cattala will sign this resolution.
Cattala will sign this resolution.
Thomas- Overlord of Eurasia
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I would support this idea.
Karasem would sign this.
Karasem would sign this.
Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
Now that it's been better explained, I'm OK with the idea.
Lower Columbia agrees to sign this resolution.
Lower Columbia agrees to sign this resolution.
woodb3kmaster- Permanent Secretary
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Re: VOTING | Resolution on International Associations, Blocs and Alliances
Since we seem to have support, I will open voting on this new union policy.
Thomas- Overlord of Eurasia
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The Federal Republic of Corraile has agreed to be a signatory of this resolution.
Kevin- Prime Minister
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