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Cattalian Forces in Kegi and Uroboria: Do you think that military sanctions should be placed, as proposed by the Hiigaran Confederacy?

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Post by emgmod 10th October 2011, 22:47

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"Strike Force" could possibly be a misnomer, similar to the term "pencil lead."
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Post by hiigarar 10th October 2011, 23:21

Strike force, military term for the military unit of a special assault assignment (compare to QRF in defense tactics). Forza D'Assalto is translated as Assault force (Strike Force). I don't imagine a "Peaceful" "Refugee Supporting" organization taking the name Assault Force (Strike Force).
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Post by emgmod 11th October 2011, 00:12

Lead, at certain exposure levels, is a poisonous substance to animals as well as for human beings. Graphite deposits look like a form of lead. I can't imagine a perfectly harmless writing tool taking up a name that implies a poisonous metal is inside.
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Post by Thomas 11th October 2011, 18:55

hiigarar wrote:"Cattala is clearly only defending itself by accusing the Hiigaran, Syldavian and Shushtrepistazian governments of being liars. They still didn't recognize the Forza D'Assalto was an illegal military force with firearms in the territory of Shushtrepistaz and more specifically South Uroboria."

We demand that Cattala responed and also reply what was the Forza D'Asslto (Strike Force) doing. As we had only "watery" responce about them looking in to the civilians being harmed.

Cattala has very historically named military organisations. The Forza D'Assalto was formed to counter the fascist occupation of Cattala, and were a very elite unit that has now evolved into a special forces role, not a paramilitary one. The main armed forces is called the "Armato Salvatore" - literally translated as the Armed Saviours, who rescued Cattala from the fascist occupation. In English the names don't really work anymore, so don't get hung up on them. Smile

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The Forza D'Assalto was investigating possible human rights abuses in Uroboria at the time in question. The firearms were not used and operators were explicitly told not to fire their weapons. We have not accused any national government of lying, and request that the accusation by the Hiigaran Confederacy be formally withdrawn.
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Post by SmartbyLaw 12th October 2011, 14:34

Lorenta will remain on Shushtrepistaz, Syldavia and Hiigara's side. With evidence that in my opinion is indisputable, I think Cattala had no right entering the area while civil unrest was occuring. If they wish to help with peace missions, then they [Cattala] should've asked permission of Hiigara, Syldavia and Shushtrepistaz but, they didn't. So yes, I back up Hiigara, Syldavia and Shushtrepistaz.



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Post by Thomas 12th October 2011, 18:27

Lorenta is not a member of the Alliance Security Council and therefore cannot comment in this part of proceedings. The following nations are the only ones allowed to comment in the Discussions room:

» Hiigaran United Confederacy
» Federal Republic of Corraile
» Federal Republic of Syldavia
» Atlantic Federation
» United Republic of Llithustania
» Shushtrepistaz
» Republic of Arcacia
» Republic of Illu'a
» United Kingdom of Cattala

And any nation which faces sanctions in this discussion (Cattala, already a NPM).
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Post by SmartbyLaw 12th October 2011, 21:00

While that may be true, Lorenta still is a member of AIN and the ASC is part of AIN. Therefore I do have an opinion. But I will respect your comment
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Post by Thomas 13th October 2011, 18:28

Legally you are not allowed to comment in here because you are not a member of the Alliance Security Council. That means you personally, and Lorenta. You may have an opinion but it cannot be aired inside the ASC since technically you aren't here. You are represented by the Republic of Illu'a as the American Non-Permanent Member though. Smile
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Post by hiigarar 14th October 2011, 00:25

Returning to the Council things Cheeky/Razz

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We call that soon a vote be called about will the Security Council pull sanctions or will it not in 3-5 days.

Cattala has still broken the sovereign bonderies. No Government was informed that the Forza D'assult will be in Uroboria belonging to the Shushtrepistaz. Even if it was checking for refegues and civilians, it should have informed the government and the military command of the intervention.
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Post by ForthWall 18th October 2011, 23:28

The government of Shushtrepistaz and the Region of South Uroboria want to begin a call for a vote
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Post by hiigarar 19th October 2011, 00:19

Hiigaran Support this.

As last, we demand that there be military sanctions against Cattala, to stop trading with the country only in military equipment.

No other sanctions are demanded, as we do not wish to harm the Citizens of Cattala, only to sanction the military that actions wore unfriendly to the AIN nations of Shushtrepistaz-Syldavia-Hiigara.
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Post by Thomas 19th October 2011, 18:59

I believe we're ready to vote on this. Voting is now open for NPMs and Permanent Members ONLY.
If anyone else votes then they may face a ban from the Alliance Security Council at the next rotation.
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Post by Blakeway4 19th October 2011, 22:10

Syldavia voted YES.

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Post by emgmod 21st October 2011, 07:16

I got a feeling the only guys who voted are Cattala, Hiigara, Illu'a, Shushtrepistaz, and Syldavia. Cheeky/Razz
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Post by Thomas 22nd October 2011, 11:35

Well it needs to be a simple majority unless someone vetos it. So we will just wait until more people vote. Please post to say you have voted, so we know who hasn't. Smile
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Post by hiigarar 24th October 2011, 21:00

Voted, the first one Cheeky/Razz
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Post by ForthWall 25th October 2011, 00:24

Ok, I think we have a decision?

All 9 members have voted
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Post by emgmod 25th October 2011, 04:01

That looks like seven to me. Cheeky/Razz

Dan R. seems to be gone, which leaves one person unaccounted for.
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Post by ForthWall 25th October 2011, 04:49

:oops: I thought it was 5/4 Cheeky/Razz
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Post by Thomas 25th October 2011, 11:13

Daniel is on leave until the end of the month. Therefore, this is a stalemate until he returns and if no verdict is produced then Resolution 001 cannot pass.
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Post by emgmod 25th October 2011, 16:26

That makes perfect sense considering the score is 4-4. Cheeky/Razz
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Post by Daniel 25th October 2011, 19:03

Arcacia votes NO.
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Post by Thomas 25th October 2011, 21:10

Poll closed, as all 9 members of the ASC have now voted.
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Post by Blakeway4 25th October 2011, 21:52

Complot des puissances étrangères qui veulent diminuer nos forces en appuyant l'ennemie. La belle expression: l'ennemie de mon ennemie est mon ami prend tout son sens en ce moment. La convoitise des puissances étrangères pour le contrôle de l'Alliance se fait sentir de plus en plus. Un confrontation armée est en voie d'aboutissement. Je ne crois pas que les nations en faveur du OUI seront heureux de la tournure actuelle des évènements.

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Post by Thomas 25th October 2011, 21:57

Who else voted? If you don't tell us we will have to go to a re-vote and that will be very frustrating.
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