Arcacia et al. V Aleksania
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Re: Arcacia et al. V Aleksania
kccl35 wrote:The Republic of Corraile again condems the usage of a nuclear weapon, however small, to destroy a non-member state. This action not only threatened member nations but also could have killed more civilians who were none the wiser about this incident.
Corraile will uphold ots economic and diplomatic sanctions against Aleksania and will declare the latter to be a rogue state. Meanwhile, these restrictions have been lifted from Bob.
I say this again, THIS WAS ON ALEKSANIAN SOIL
Re: Arcacia et al. V Aleksania
It still doesn't give you the right to use it against other human beings.
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Moved to AIN High Court Current Case
Saathoff- Prime Minister
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Likewise. I should have said this before asking my questions, but I'll also be jury.
woodb3kmaster- Permanent Secretary
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Tirnreich in support.
The Empire would also like to take this opportunity to prosecute Aleksania for the unwarranted, unlawful, and unjustified attack on Krijia. (24 April 2010) This attack killed a great amount of allied troops as well as unarmed civilians.
The Empire would also like to take this opportunity to prosecute Aleksania for the unwarranted, unlawful, and unjustified attack on Krijia. (24 April 2010) This attack killed a great amount of allied troops as well as unarmed civilians.
Liberater444- Ambassador At Large
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Case needs more jurors. Ill set the case to begin Wednesday
Saathoff- Prime Minister
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I'll be one of the jurors, but under as the Minister of the AIN Department of Education, Safety and Health.
Aranho- Sovereign
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Looks like I've got jury duty
Liberater444- Ambassador At Large
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Probably not a big surprise that I'll be prosecuting.
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Okay since its a day late lets start this
The Case of Arcacia et al. V Aleksania is now in session. Arcacia is suing Aleksania for the use of Nuclear Weapon
Lets start with Arcacia's story please
The Case of Arcacia et al. V Aleksania is now in session. Arcacia is suing Aleksania for the use of Nuclear Weapon
Lets start with Arcacia's story please
Saathoff- Prime Minister
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Thank you, Your Honour.
On the June the 2nd of this year, the Republic of Aleksania detonated a nuclear device in an act of war. They have the distinction of being the only nation to do so since the end of World War II.
The device threw radioactive material 80,000 feet into the air and now presents a fallout risk for surrounding regions. Aleksania would have the court believe that as it was only a small device the fallout will only be local. This exposes the complete lack of understanding the Aleksanian Minister for Science has about how global air currents work.
At the time of detonation, several civilian aircraft were transversing the Pacific ocean. One of these was an Arcacian Airlines Boeing 787 en route from Los Angeles to Redding. The pilots reported seeing the explosion. The plane had to then be diverted to Seoul. If the bomb had been detonated just 1 hour later, the plane may very well have been knocked out of the sky by the shockwave, or electro-magnetic pulse.
No warning was given to Aleksanias allies. No advance notice that the area would be affected by a nuclear blast.
Perhaps Aleksania was so trigger happy that they knew making the attack public prior to the detonation would have resulted in nations speaking out against the measure.
Aleksania seems to think that as it was only a small device it isn't so bad. Yet more proof of their ignorance. The same result would have been achieved using conventional weapons which would not have placed commercial air traffic and the citizens of countries not involved in this conflict at risk.
The Republic of Arcacia and its co-plaintiffs accuse Aleksania of using a weapon of mass destruction in a situation that did not warrant its use and placed the lived of innocent Arcacians at risk.
Had an Arcacian been killed or injured as a result of Aleksania's wanton disregard for its neighbours, we would have considered this an act of war.
There was no justification for the use of a nuclear weapon. That one was used exposes Aleksania as a danger to global security.
On the June the 2nd of this year, the Republic of Aleksania detonated a nuclear device in an act of war. They have the distinction of being the only nation to do so since the end of World War II.
The device threw radioactive material 80,000 feet into the air and now presents a fallout risk for surrounding regions. Aleksania would have the court believe that as it was only a small device the fallout will only be local. This exposes the complete lack of understanding the Aleksanian Minister for Science has about how global air currents work.
At the time of detonation, several civilian aircraft were transversing the Pacific ocean. One of these was an Arcacian Airlines Boeing 787 en route from Los Angeles to Redding. The pilots reported seeing the explosion. The plane had to then be diverted to Seoul. If the bomb had been detonated just 1 hour later, the plane may very well have been knocked out of the sky by the shockwave, or electro-magnetic pulse.
No warning was given to Aleksanias allies. No advance notice that the area would be affected by a nuclear blast.
Perhaps Aleksania was so trigger happy that they knew making the attack public prior to the detonation would have resulted in nations speaking out against the measure.
Aleksania seems to think that as it was only a small device it isn't so bad. Yet more proof of their ignorance. The same result would have been achieved using conventional weapons which would not have placed commercial air traffic and the citizens of countries not involved in this conflict at risk.
The Republic of Arcacia and its co-plaintiffs accuse Aleksania of using a weapon of mass destruction in a situation that did not warrant its use and placed the lived of innocent Arcacians at risk.
Had an Arcacian been killed or injured as a result of Aleksania's wanton disregard for its neighbours, we would have considered this an act of war.
There was no justification for the use of a nuclear weapon. That one was used exposes Aleksania as a danger to global security.
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Thank you Arcacia. Could we know here Aleksania reason for the use of the nuclear weapon
Saathoff- Prime Minister
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Aleksania need to present their case of i have no choice but to sentence you guilty
Saathoff- Prime Minister
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Aleksania this is your last chance, you have exactly 24 hours to state your story.
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Sorry, I was gone. Ok, here it is:
On the day of the use of the nuclear weapon, Aleksania was on the brink of extinction. KSR forces were 10km from Aleksania City. Most of Aleksania's Air and Naval forces had been evacuated to Fiji. After careful consideration, Aleksanian Chancellor Aleks Facco ordered the use of the nuclear weapon as a "last resort."
The ignorance is in fact on the part of the Arcacians as the area in which the weapon was a valley in which the surrounding mountains blocked 90% of the nuclear fall out, and because of the particular wind patterns of the area, the rest of the fallout was blown out to sea where it would not come to harm anyone. The valley also helped absorb much of the shock wave. The idea of a commercial airliner on a flight from Arcacia to L.A. would mean that the plane would have to be nearly 1,000 miles off a normal coarse. Also, to be able to see the blast the aircraft would of had to be in Aleksanian Airspace, which at that time was shut down for nearly two weeks, and AIN Member nations had been notified of that fact. At the time of the explosion, radar operators in Aleksania City only detected ten aircraft in Aleksanian Airspace, 6 of which were Aleksanian and the other four being confirmed as KSR aircraft.
Fig. 1: Flight Path from L.A. to Arcacia
The use of conventional weapons would have been highly unpractical, as Aleksania does not have a very large bomber force, and that this force was withdrawn to Fiji at this point. The use of artillery would have taken so long it would have given KSR forces time to evacuate the area and/or destroy the atillery in that time.
That is all your honor.
On the day of the use of the nuclear weapon, Aleksania was on the brink of extinction. KSR forces were 10km from Aleksania City. Most of Aleksania's Air and Naval forces had been evacuated to Fiji. After careful consideration, Aleksanian Chancellor Aleks Facco ordered the use of the nuclear weapon as a "last resort."
The ignorance is in fact on the part of the Arcacians as the area in which the weapon was a valley in which the surrounding mountains blocked 90% of the nuclear fall out, and because of the particular wind patterns of the area, the rest of the fallout was blown out to sea where it would not come to harm anyone. The valley also helped absorb much of the shock wave. The idea of a commercial airliner on a flight from Arcacia to L.A. would mean that the plane would have to be nearly 1,000 miles off a normal coarse. Also, to be able to see the blast the aircraft would of had to be in Aleksanian Airspace, which at that time was shut down for nearly two weeks, and AIN Member nations had been notified of that fact. At the time of the explosion, radar operators in Aleksania City only detected ten aircraft in Aleksanian Airspace, 6 of which were Aleksanian and the other four being confirmed as KSR aircraft.
Fig. 1: Flight Path from L.A. to Arcacia
The use of conventional weapons would have been highly unpractical, as Aleksania does not have a very large bomber force, and that this force was withdrawn to Fiji at this point. The use of artillery would have taken so long it would have given KSR forces time to evacuate the area and/or destroy the atillery in that time.
That is all your honor.
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Thank you Aleksania, Even if the Arcacia aircraft was off course by that far, it means nothing. I will not question the aircraft. They stated they saw the explosion, okay so even if it puts them off-course who cares. They saw it. The Arcacian plane could have been within 222 miles and could of see the mushroom cloud. The average nuclear mushroom cloud goes up 13 miles above the surface of earth. 68640 feet above earth. Planes fly 6 miles below. Easily being able to see a mushroom cloud
Saathoff- Prime Minister
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Aleksania, I would like to point out a problem in your story. If the bombers couldn't be used, how did the nuclear bomb manage to get there? A missile? If so, wouldn't it be safer to simply attach a conventional warhead instead of a nuclear one? That nuke got there somehow, and every way it could have gotten there can also be used to launch conventional weapons.
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Which could have easily launched conventional weapons Aleks. Which puts you into question why you choose nuclear weapons instead of normal weapons
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We would like to point out that Aleksania's account of the flight path from LA to Redding is incorrect. The map provided shows the flight path from LA to Sydney, nearly 800km to the South. The actual flight path takes the aircraft directly over the bomb site as it was originally meant to stop in Auckland, New Zealand en route to Redding.
Aleksania also claims that the bomb exploded in a valley, yet the photograph of the bomb in the original news story shows very clearly that there were no valleys, no mountains, no nothing to contain the shockwave. At any rate, mountains on either side would not have stopped the shockwave from going up, only out.
As far as fallout in concerned, New Zealand was put on high alert for the possibility of fallout as the prevailing Easterly winds threatened to blanket New Zealand's largest city in radioactive material as well as threatening New Zealand's pristine wilderness and unique wildlife.
Aleksania detonated this weapon without any thought as to how it might affect its neighbours.
Aleksania could have used cruise missiles or any number of ground based heavy artillery that would have been equally effective without being a risk to neighbouring countries or the heavily trafficked trans-Pacific air corridors.
Aleksania also claims that the bomb exploded in a valley, yet the photograph of the bomb in the original news story shows very clearly that there were no valleys, no mountains, no nothing to contain the shockwave. At any rate, mountains on either side would not have stopped the shockwave from going up, only out.
As far as fallout in concerned, New Zealand was put on high alert for the possibility of fallout as the prevailing Easterly winds threatened to blanket New Zealand's largest city in radioactive material as well as threatening New Zealand's pristine wilderness and unique wildlife.
Aleksania detonated this weapon without any thought as to how it might affect its neighbours.
Aleksania could have used cruise missiles or any number of ground based heavy artillery that would have been equally effective without being a risk to neighbouring countries or the heavily trafficked trans-Pacific air corridors.
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