Re: Rhodes V1 Forum

by **Liberater444** 14th July 2010, 00:13

Nice chart!

by **Blakeway4** 14th July 2010, 02:26

In this thread you'll see all the announcements of Rhodes in the AIN.

I'll start with that one:

Rhodes announced officially that the Burqa will be officially banned and illegal to wear in all the public areas or outside of their propreties in the Island.

Fell free to ask any question or do any comments.

by **anarchy0029** 14th July 2010, 04:11

With all due respect, wouldn't that be a ban to some who expresses a freedom of religion in your country.

Wearing a Burqa is not banned in Hypertrophy, and Hypertrophy will not follow. But the laws over in Rhodes are quite extreme. That's like saying anyone with a Islamic background is banned.

by **MiguelLeal** 14th July 2010, 08:44

Fairview understands Rhodes position face Burgas and Fairview has the same position but how in Fairview we have religion freedom we don't have a law against burgas, but we don't like to see people using it!

by **Kevin** 14th July 2010, 11:31

Corraile officially condemns this move.

Given Rhode's proximity to Islamic nations, such as Algeria, Egypt, Syria and Jordan, it is no doubt obvious that Rhodes will see a large influx of Muslim immigrants into the country. However, such actions are official discrimination against Muslims and Islam on a whole. Respecting on another's religion is one of the basic fundamentals of humanity, which is sorely lacked around the world. Already, much criticism has been fired at Switzerland and France for banning Minarets and Burqas respectively, and we do not hope to see others ban a symbol of choice and religion.

Therefore, I hope that the Government of Rhodes will strongly reconsider this ban and re-allow the wearing of Burqas into society.

Kelvin Chuan
President, Republic of Corraile

by **Aleks** 14th July 2010, 13:38

The Republic of Aleksania condemns these actions.

by **Blakeway4** 14th July 2010, 14:03

About Religion in Rhodes.

Wikipedia wrote:The predominant religion is Greek Orthodox. There is a significant Roman Catholic[9] minority on the island, many of whom are descendants of Italians who remained after the end of the Italian occupation. Rhodes has a Muslim minority, a remnant from Ottoman Turkish times.

The Jewish community of Rhodes[10] goes back to the 1st century AD. In 1480, the Jews actively defended the walled city against the Turks. Kahal Shalom, established in 1557, is the oldest synagogue in Greece and still stands in the Jewish quarter of the Old Town of Rhodes.

At its peak in the 1920s, the Jewish community was one-third of the total population.[11] In the 1940s, there were about 2000 Jews of various ethnic backgrounds. The Germans deported and killed most of the community during the Holocaust. Kahal Shalom has been renovated with the help of foreign donors but few Jews live year-round in Rhodes today, so services are not held on a regular basis.

On this pic you may see all the different types of Muslims covers:

Rhodes V1 Forum - Page 4 Hijab1.1223654621

You see that the Burqa is completely hiding the face of people and that's not tolerable according to the Rhodesian Constitution.

The burqa are practical problems

* Can we accept that a mother comes to carry a guarded child out of school, a driver niqab is done flashing on the highway, a bank employee opened the door to his office to a masked, ...?
* Any person wearing the burqa is in the position of a criminal about to commit a robbery, his face covered with a hood.
* What the burqa is legal in a demonstration while we come to forbid the hood? ('On the illegal concealment of the face of protests on the streets' of 20/6/2009).

The burqa and submit oppresses women

* The burqa is a submission of women is incompatible with our republican values equality and freedom
* The wearing of the burqa is oppressive, it was claimed as a freedom
* The burqa and the veil hiding his face are much more than religious symbols.
* Women who wear the burqa in Rhodes are under pressure or brainwashing of their surroundings. We heard many of them say on TV that the burqa were guaranteed paradise (such as female suicide bombers ...) this, 230 years after the Enlightenment!
* Putting an end to this practice will prevent its contagion present. Do not fear that these women "victims" of the Act makes the burqa popular: it was not the case the headscarf in school, for example, contrary to what some predicted!

The burqa is a denial of identity

* The seclusion of the burqa deliberately and continuously removes the person in the eyes of others.
* The concept of face is so important in relation to others for Levinas seems to disappear with the burqa. However, this argument is questionable: it presupposes that Levinas address the materiality of the face more than the actual presence of others, which would exclude such non-sighted in its approach!
* The burqa reached the very idea of "citizen" because it is a denial of identification and especially depersonalization undifferentiated. With the burqa: it is nobody and is never identified in the civil space.
* This denial of identity is a way to abolish humanity

1. because the complainant withdraws the ordinary trade between humans,
2. the other since they indicated that a person can become untouchable and unreachable.

The burqa is a denial of society

* The burqa is a gulf which has abolished all singularity. Before our eyes is a collection of identical form without personal identity. Identical in appearance nihilating by their non-actions hindered evenly.
* Let's all wear the same mask, are indistinguishable and so reputed: it is no longer a human world, this would be a collection formed by mere externalities. - Sectarianism scratches and women of ordinary visibility by making a simple collection. In women, the subject, author and purpose of law is abolished, we no longer see, blind spot and blinding, that the black mark of its deletion.
* Fadela Amara said that the burqa is a prison. First, because it is a mask: who refuses the identification evades laws and is therefore in prison. It is loaded with a shell that makes it impenetrable untouchable, both above and below the law.

Even if there's a freedom of religion in Rhodes, it is even worse not to obey the laws of the Rhodesian society.

Rhodes will keep its position on this issue.

by **Kevin** 14th July 2010, 14:33

So, does Rhodes ban Hijabs?

by **Blakeway4** 14th July 2010, 15:03

Only burqa for the moment.

by **Tyler** 14th July 2010, 16:23

i think burqas look scary Rhodes V1 Forum - Page 4 Suspect

lol

by **Thomas** 14th July 2010, 17:12

Sky News is Cattala now, Julien. Smile

by **Blakeway4** 14th July 2010, 17:15

updated. my bad Thomas Wink

by **Thomas** 14th July 2010, 17:16

That's really good Julien! Laugh

by **Thomas** 14th July 2010, 17:38

Cattala welcomes the ban introduced by our close ally Rhodes.

by **Blakeway4** 14th July 2010, 18:25

Italics, Thomas Cheeky/Razz

Rhodes decided to ban also the Niqab, for the same reasons as for the Burqa.

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*Autant faire une pierre deux coups!*

by **Blakeway4** 14th July 2010, 18:39

The ancient myths

Pindar and other ancient writers are very detailed in the description of Rhodes in their manuscripts. The origins of Rhodes are connected to a divine myth about Zeus (leader of the ancient Greek gods) and Helios (god of the Sun).

According to this myth, after Zeus's victory against the Giants, he decided to divide the earth among the Olympian gods; The only god who received nothing was Helios.

He, according the myth, was absent and "No one remembered to include him in the draw"! When he came back he demanded his share, but Zeus told him that he was not able to make the cast again because the rest of the gods would not agree. Helios was disappointed but asked Zeus and the other gods to promise that the land that was to rise out of the sea could be his.

As he spoke, a beautiful island slowly emerged from the bottom of the blue sea, Rhodes. Helios bathed Rhodes with his own radiance and made it the most beautiful island in the Aegean Sea.

Rhodes was known in ancient times by several other names, such as Ophiousa (because a lot of snakes lived there), Asteria (for its clear blue and starry sky), Makaria (for its arresting beauty) and Atavyria (after its highest mountain, Atavyros).

Prehistory

Another name for Rhodes was Telchina, because its first inhabitants where said to be the Telchines , gifted metal workers who lived on the island in the Prehistoric Age.

The first known 'human' inhabitants were the Carians, a tribe, which came from Asia Minor. The Phoenicians, great merchants who made Rhodes an important commercial centre, followed them. Their leader Cadmus, who introduced the first alphabet, founded the first Phoenician colony on Rhodes Island.

In the recorded history of the Eastern Mediterranean, Minoans from Crete settled on Rhodes.

Those Minoans lived peacefully on the island for many centuries, until another tribe arrived against them. The newcomers were Greek Achaeans from the Greek mainland.

Around 1400 BC, the Achaeans founded a powerful state that very soon extended its influence. Centuries later, the bellicose Dorians came to Rhodes and developed Lindos, Ialysos and Kamiros. Those three cities finally grew immensely in power and wealth.

Located in such a strategic position, Rhodes quickly gained fame and wealth. Fast Rhodesian ships sailed everywhere in the Mediterranean, bringing riches and glory back to motherland. Between 1000 and 600 BC, Kamiros, Ialysos, and Lindos, colonised many areas along the west coast of Asia Minor, Sicily, France and Spain.

Classical Period

Initially, those three cities maintained their administrative independence, but later united with three other Doric cities, Kos, Knidos and Halicarnassus, to form a federation of six cities, the so-called Doric Hexapolis.

In the 5th century BC, Rhodes suffered many changes as a result of warfare. For a short period it came under the influence of the Persians. When the Greeks defeated the Persians, Rhodes became a member of the Delian League under the leadership of Athens.

During the Peloponnesian War (431-404 BC), the Rhodesians decided to found a new city by uniting the three largest cities on the island. They were very aware of the meaning of the motto "power in unity". The new city was called Rhodes, after the island itself. Its foundation in 408 BC constitutes a landmark in the history of the island.

The Hellenistic Period

The Rhodesians put into effect the so-called "International Marine Law of the Rhodesians", a code of law which is one of the most important early legal documents in the world.
The new city came under the influence of the two great Greek powers of that time, Athens and Sparta, until Macedonian intentions in that era became clear to all people of the ancient Greek world. The Rhodesians lost no time in siding with the Macedonians. Later, during the siege of Tyre, they helped Alexander the Great to conquer it.

When Alexander's empire fell to pieces, Rhodes developed close trade and political relations with the Ptolemeus Dynasty of Egypt. This was a 'casus belli' for Antigonus, the King of Syria, who in the summer of 305 BC sent his son, the famous Demetrius Poliorkitis (the 'Besieger') to capture the town of Rhodes.

The Rhodesians, protected by their mighty walls, managed to resist capture for a whole year and forced Demetrius to raise his siege.

Demetrius's failure to conquer the island marked the beginning of a new era for Rhodes, during which trade and marine activities reached their peak.

The Rhodesians, in their effort to show correct maritime conduct, put into effect the so-called 'International Marine Law of the Rhodesians, a code of law which is one of the most important early legal documents in the world.

The Roman Years

The intervention of Rome in the affairs of Greece and the Eastern Mediterranean became noticeable from the end of the 3rd Century BC. The Rhodesians maintained a friendly stance towards the Romans. However, the Romans wanted to restrict the power of the island. They found a pretext to declare Delos a free port. This strangled Rhodesian commerce, and Rhodes was compelled to sign a treaty obliging it to have the same friends and enemies as Rome.

This agreement proved disastrous for Rhodes. Nevertheless, after the assassination of Julius Caesar, the Rhodesians refused to aid Cassius against his enemies. He attacked and conquered the Town in 42 BC, destroying a large part of the island and taking away more than 3,000 works of art.

The Middle Ages

Rhodes was often overrun and destroyed by enemies such as the Persians, Saracens and Seljuks.
Rhodes, strategically positioned near the Holy Land, accepted the new ideas of Christianity with ease. According to tradition, St Paul himself preached the new religion at Lindos in 58 AD and converted many of the inhabitants.

As early as the 1st Century, Rhodes had a bishop, Prochoros. When the Roman Empire split in two, Rhodes was often overrun and destroyed by enemies such as the Persians, Saracens and Seljuks.

Rhodes did not have any direct communication with Western Europe until the 11th Century. In 1082, the Venetians where given the right to set up a trading station in the port. A century later, Richard the Lionheart and King Phillip of France arrived with a fleet to enlist mercenaries for their crusade.

The crusaders conquered Constantinople in 1204, and a rich landowner, Leo Gavallas, from the former capital of the Empire, declared himself Despot of Rhodes.

The Byzantine emperors captured their capital back from the Crusaders in 1261, and Rhodes theoretically returned to their control. In fact, the island was under the Genoese admirals whose fleet remained in its harbour. In 1306, one of those admirals, Vignolo Vignoli, sold Rhodes, Kos and Leros to the Knights of St John in Jerusalem, who by force had gained full control of the island by 1309.

The Knights

The Knights left imposing evidence of their presence on Rhodes, and gave the island the particular character it retains to this day.
When the Knights ruled Rhodes, the island became the most powerful in Eastern Mediterranean. They left imposing evidence of their presence on Rhodes, and gave the city the particular character it retains to this day, with its impregnable walls, gates, churches, hospitals, Inns and palaces.

During occupation by the Knights, Rhodes surfaced from the obscurity into which it had sunk after the 7th Century, and acquired considerable strategic and economic importance. It was transformed into a bastion of the West, and an important port of call in trade between Europe and the East.

Caviar, textiles of wool and silk, oil, wine, sugar and perfumes, saffron, wax, pepper - Rhodes was the paradise for merchants! Wheat was brought to Rhodes from Cyprus, Asia Minor and, later, Sicily; wine was brought from Crete and Italy. Disputes among merchants were settled in the Mercantile Court of Rhodes, and three galleys protected the sea-lanes on which the island lay.

While the Knights ruled Rhodes, large Florentine commercial and banking houses established branches on Rhodes Island. This was a proof of the island's power. The Knights remained in Rhodes for 213 years until 1522, when, on December 29th, the last of the Grand Masters, Villiers de l'Isle Adam, surrendered the island to Suleiman the Magnificent.

Turkish and Italian occupation

The Turkish occupation of Rhodes was the darkest period in its history, as it was for the whole of Greece. The island was under the control of Kapudan Pasha (a full Admiral). The city itself was capital of the Vilayet (Province) of the Aegean and was the seat of the General Administrator.

The Greek inhabitants of the city were forced to leave the walled Town and settle outside it, forming new suburbs which they called 'marasia'. The Turks never managed to attain complete dominance over the island, and the Turkish part of population was always a small minority. During those dark days of foreign occupation, many towns - and especially Lindos - were able to flourish thanks to their stock and production in foodstuffs, clothing, silverware, household utensils and perfumes.

Turkish occupation of the Dodecanese lasted until 1912. In that year, the Italians, with the help of the local Greek, occupied the island. At first they treated the local residents well, and hopes of a speedy union with Greece flourished. However, the raise of Fascism led to more expansionist policies, and Italy denied Rhodes the right to self-determination. This was the signal for the beginning of armed resistance.

After the defeat of the Axis powers, Rhodes and the other Dodecanese islands came under British military administration until March 7th 1948, when the Greek flag was finally raised over the Governor's Palace.

The After-war to now

Rhodes remained under Greek rule until 1975 when she proclaims its independence. From that moment, the Island returned into a Principality. In 1990, the weddings of Prince Luke Vaas, the future Prince of Rhodes, with the Princess Alexandra of Celestine, the future Queen of Cattala, trigger a strong attachment between the two nations and the two royal families.

by **Thomas** 14th July 2010, 19:22

They are really the same thing, except the Burqa has a mask or something in your image. But again, a good move.

by **Blakeway4** 14th July 2010, 19:53

yeah, Burqa has a grill. looks like fencing to me.

by **Blakeway4** 16th July 2010, 00:01

What do you think? You may see the Rhodes Colossus Cathedral, and on down left, Tirnreich Embassy.

What should I do in the surrounding of the fortress?

by **Spy9600** 16th July 2010, 00:58

1. :shock:
WOOW.
Does that satisfy you?

2. Fountains, Trees, and GRL woud fit great.

by **emgmod** 16th July 2010, 04:11

That park separating the wall and the avenue looks a bit plain.

But everything in the wall looks perfect. A tram in street line could be added if you want to.

by **Sky Guy** 16th July 2010, 04:52

Awesome! I think you should put trees on those park lots, and a clump of modern buildings would make great contrast with it!

by **Liberater444** 16th July 2010, 09:07

Awesome! glad to see my embassy! I actually have been to St. Peter's Square Cheeky/Razz

by **MiguelLeal** 16th July 2010, 10:10

Awesome, looks like put some Modern-Historic Architetur buildings like these: http://www.bodaclick.com/img/img_moll/premium/galeria_marcada/pousada-viseu-80159.jpg

by **anarchy0029** 16th July 2010, 14:25

Wow that's a long row of buildings. It is very impressive!

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