Disapproved | Leave No Child Behind

Know your feeling, but I still think that it's the choice of parents and children! Not the State or Alliance Choice.

Yeah. Therefore, no more restrictions on home-schooling (although I feel a little sad).

In reply to Neil's segregation issue:

In Ollingdale, faith schools have to allow a minimum of 5% of students in each school year to be from another religion.
Much of Ollingdale is Catholic, so in St Peters Catholic Secondary School on Valican Point, 95% of students are catholic and only 5% are another denomination of Christianity or atheists. No Islamic students are allowed in the school.

In Arcacia, most children attend public school. Private schools only account for around 5% of students, church run schools about 2% (neither private nor church run schools receive any government assistance and churches in Arcacia are not tax exempt) and home schooling accounts for less than 0.5%.

Public and church run schools are not permitted to deny entry to any student. Private schools are allowed to be selective, provided they act within the constitution.

Home-schooled students are usually introverted and are home schooled because they cannot cope with the social aspect of mainstream school.

Thomas, racism at school??
Church isn't allowed to take part of the government or buisness in Lanaya. Church is considered like a charity organisation since it helps some communities. Schools are totally laic. No burka or or other religious signs are allowed. If you're not happy, get out. That's how we should result the "resonable accomodations" here in Quebec. You quit your country to come here so addapt yourself! gosh. Well 65% of students are in Public Schools and 30% are in Private. 5% of them are home-schooling ( Aran)!
Every public organisations of Lanaya are managed by the government so that mean, laicism! Well, there's not alot of religious at all in Lanaya since must of the population is atheist. Public schools aren't allowed to deny entry of students, only for one exception: the attitude of the student (dangerous killer example). Private school are allowed but only for the exception mentionned just above and for academic results.

School program is well financed by the government to provide one of the best education in the world for the students. History, Maths and French are the most important matieres of Secondary and Primary in Lanaya.

It's not overly-racist: They are schools for Catholic students, so Catholic students should go there. It makes no sense having the system we have in England, where we have people walking round my school wearing headscarfs and not taking part in Mass.

, I don't like religions so that's why Lanaya is very laic. Every schools must be laic to prohibit the respect and peace of every students, I guess.

Holidia's system - mimics the Northern Irish system. I quite like the system as it gets results although the fact all schools wear uniform leads to violence as the general thinking is - he is from that school so therefore he is a taig (derogatory term for catholic or republican). Oh his school doesnt have saint in the name therefore he is a hun (derogatory term for protestant or unionist)

Fornax Education System follows closely to Singapore's Education System. All schools must accept students of any race and religion. Schooling for primary and secondary education level is compulsory; parents failing to send their children to school will receive a hefty fine.

All students (excluding private schools) must wear the uniform based on the school's uniform design. Corporal punishment (public caning and class caning) does take place in school.

Missionary schools (non-Carolinism Christianity schools) does exist in Fornax, but are not exempted from the student intake law.

There are three types of schools: government-funded (100% funded by the government), government-aided (50% funded by the government, 50% funded independently) and independent (100% funded independently). Therefore, school fees varies between the type of school.

There are also three types of schools: all-boys, all-girls and mixed.

No headware, jewelleries and/or unofficial accessories (cap, earrings, rubber waist bands, etc.) are allowed to be worn together with the school uniform except for Sikh students (they are allowed to wear turban and silver bangles) and Muslim students (they are allowed to wear headscarf but are not allowed to cover their face). Christian students who wear the cross necklace are allowed to wear them, but must not expose it to the public.

Is caning torture?

Yes but, under school caning, the students being caned must be caned at the buttocks, no where else. Before caning, the student being caned must have a protection at the lower back to prevent spinal cord injuries. Noth male and female are eligible for school caning. The maximum strokes from the cane is 6.

But any kind of torture is illegal under the AIN Constitution, under Article 6.5.
"No one shall be subject to torture"

http://www.aoin.eu/constitution-of-ain-f126/ratification-of-the-constitution-of-the-alliance-of-independent-nations-t1711.htm

Oh man. Then I guess corporal punishment will have to go from Fornax after a 54 years history.

Yes. Caning is torture.

Corporal punishment was abandoned in Arcacian schools in 1977. It hadn't really been used much before then, but the government finally enacted a blanket ban after a 13 year old boy was left with severe bruising. The teacher was imprisoned, the school fined and the boy's family successfully sued the government.

Lycanthia doesn't even allow corporal punishment in the home. It is allowed in Arcacia, but there are restrictions. It must only be done with an open hand on the buttocks. Breaking this law can see children removed from their parents' custody and can also lead to criminal charges.

What's caning? Botox? woot!

Caning is a long stick used to discipline children, it has been abolished in many countries but was used up until the 1980s in NI (despite a British ban in 1948) .

Corporal punishment is prohibited in Holidian schools and also not used in prisons. However, in the home parents are allowed to administer corporal punishment 'within reason', whilst the use of any belts or other implements is prohibited they are still used

Blake, caning is a form of punishment where the offender will be punished by being whipped by a cane.

At home and in school, the cane use is usually made of ratan, not bamboo. Parents usually cane their children, usually by at the bottock or on the hand. If a cane is not present, a plastic or wooden ruler can be use as a substitude. In school, caning is always at the buttock but with protection as the force used is harder than at home.

In prison, for my country at least, use an elongated ratan cane. But in prison, the "caner" will cane at the same spot, at least in Singapore Prison. I believe most American remember about the Michael Fay incident in Singapore.

In 1980s, Michael Fay, an American student studying in Singapore, was caught vandalising cars in Singapore. Vandalism carries a fine plus sentenced to a number of strokes of the cane due to a sharp rise in vandalism then. Michael was sentenced to 6 strokes.

This caused an uproar in the US, as caning is a taboo (?) in the US back then. But too bad, Michael commit a crime in Singapore, he'll gets punish according to the Singapore law. But in respect to the then American President's demand, the Singapore President reduce the number of strokes to 4.

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Well, as a Chinese and since Singapore is a former British colony, I follow by the "spare the rod, spoil the child" custom.

Punishment like caning at home, in school and in prison is a must for my society. It gives a sense of obedience and the offender will have a "reminder" of their wrong doings and will know what will happen if they does the wrong things. In fact, the scar of being caned in prison will be there permanent, therefore making the offender to think twice before commiting the same crime that cause him to be caned.

In the case of Fornax, a mostly Chinese country, I will really think about whether to abolish caning or not as it is a tough decision for me due to the AIN Constitution I have signed. Too bad I'm at the losing end.

Violence begats violence.

In the home, it leads to a mistrust and contempt of the parents.

In school, it leads to mistrust and contempt of the school.

In society, it leads to mistrust and contempt of the government.

There was a case in Australia, in the early 80s, where a student was being caned on the hand. On the third stroke, he snatched the cane from the teacher's hand and beat him with it so hard, he had to be hospitalised. He was bleeding from the head, neck and back and suffered a broken collar bone.

In the 70s, a boy in the country shot his father after he was beaten with a strap. His father survived, but was left a cripple. The boy wasn't charged as he plead self defence. He was apparently beaten so often that he was permanently bruised.

Recently, a man sued his foster parents for sexual abuse. He was spanked, bare bottom, on almost a daily basis.

The line between discipline and abuse is fuzzy and easily crossed without realising it.

Caning is torture. Caning a child is beyond torture - it's evil.

I agree. The example above that Dan mentionned remember me a case in USA where a wife who was abused by her man cut his penis while he was sleeping. The man was still alive and goes to hospital. I don't know what happen to his penis but I wasn't interrested . The wife has been arrested and went in prison if I remember well.

Yes! That was John Wayne Bobbit! They found his penis on the side of a road and reattached it. He went on to have a very short and unsuccessful career as a porn star.

haha . Isn't that funny? what a fool!

Vraiment, il était l'homme le plus stupide à vivre jamais.

Non, mais c'est vraiment un gros con, il battait sa femme et il s'est fait couper le pénis. Incredible!

Based on a personal experience, I was caned lots of time when I was a child and it did help me change. Also, I was almost going to be caned by the child when I was 6 and ever since that scaring incident, I will always remember not to do that crime again.

Most of you don't experience caning and I understand. But from an Asian perspective, caning is something I really appreciate.

And btw Dan, how many times does those event happen? Not a lot of times I suppose. Caning is not always bad let me tell you. And I know some kids who appreciate caning as it help to keep their discipline in check.

I think we should create a new topic about caning, shall we? We really have gone way off topic.

So, any further debate on Leave No Child Behind?

You like to be canned? Well, I have a friend that has been violentate by his parents, both of them. He call up the DPJ (Département de la Protection de la Jeunesse) and everything came normal again. Caning is not allowed in Canada. If a teacher or a student hit another student or a teacher, they'll be directly out of school.