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Post by Sirron kcuhc 5th December 2010, 16:05

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Would any of these two places be good?


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Post by MiguelLeal 5th December 2010, 16:12

The first one.
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Post by Sirron kcuhc 6th December 2010, 17:59

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Nation Name (Longest Official Form): Socialist Republic of Matinenda
Nation Name (Native Form): Matinenda
National Anthem: God Serve the Land
National Motto: Help Those Who'd Help You.

Capital: Eltrayton
Government: Democratic/Socialist
Head(s) of State:
Senator of Eltrayton: David Ulyles
President of Matinenda: Joshua Ausfaben
Official Language(s): English, French, Italian
Population (Actual):
Residential: 303,253
Commercial: 404,770
Industrial: 9,649

I'll make up a history and fake population later, I'm in a rush for now. Except that is it good?
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Post by Spy9600 6th December 2010, 18:08

fake population?
Its called Roleplay population Smile
We don't use ingame population at all.


Not 'necessarely' fake.

The rest is alright. But why would people speak English there? :suspect:

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Post by Daniel 6th December 2010, 18:14

The location is unacceptable. It has completely swallowed Monaco. The application simply isn't up to standard. There is a great deal that needs improving.
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Post by Sirron kcuhc 6th December 2010, 19:57

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Now an island.

Nation Name (Longest Official Form): Socialist Republic of Matinenda
Nation Name (Native Form): Matinenda
National Anthem: God Serve the Land
National Motto: Help Those Who'd Help You.

Capital: Eltrayton
Government: Democratic/Socialist
Head(s) of State:
President of Matinenda: Joshua Ausfaben
Official Language(s): English, French, Italian
Member of the EU/ Relations: No/ Neutral
Election Terms: Elections every two years. Only 3 terms allowed per person. (6 years at the most per person)

Census (Actual):

Residential: 303,253
Commercial Jobs: 404,770
Industrial Jobs: 9,649

(In case the actual population is ever needed for any reason)

Role-play census:

Residential: 15,435,944
Commercial Jobs: 10,575,657
Industrial Jobs: 846,547

Area:
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History:
Matinenda was at first inhabited by natives of the Island, until it was discovered by Pierre-Médard Diard in 1825 before his travels to the Indies. Then like what happened to the Americas, the Natives were killed off by the diseases that the European were immune to. So to find an original native of Matinenda is almost impossible. It was owned by the French at first but the British wanted to steal some land declared war on France and fought for the land. The British won and owned it until World War I when German forces took the island over. After the war, it was given to Italy as a reward to them for joining the Allied Powers instead of staying with the Central Powers. It then continued being part of Italy until the end of World War II and Matinenda was given to America to help the island until it could stand on it's own. Matinenda was ready to stand on it's own in 1953 so it was freed from it's dependency of America. Since then many of people have immigrated to the island for a good living.

I'm terrible at histories.

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Anything I need to add on to this? Tell me. I will post newer pics later, I am not on the computer with SC4.


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Post by Daniel 6th December 2010, 20:21

Sorry, but it's still not there. I have a number of issues with this:

1. You location. You have essentially wiped Monaco off the map. You can't do that.

2. You have posted the same picture twice.

3. There is repetition, with the same building being used 3 or 4 times in a row.

4. The history is severely unrealistic.

5. The population is confusing. You are obviously going off the game, which is actually telling you how many commercial and industrial jobs you have, not how many people live in offices and factories.
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Post by Evillions 6th December 2010, 23:00

Daniel wrote:Sorry, but it's still not there. I have a number of issues with this:

1. You location. You have essentially wiped Monaco off the map. You can't do that.

2. You have posted the same picture twice.

3. There is repetition, with the same building being used 3 or 4 times in a row.

4. The history is severely unrealistic.

5. The population is confusing. You are obviously going off the game, which is actually telling you how many commercial and industrial jobs you have, not how many people live in offices and factories.

Agreed with everything said here! Take a look at other applications before editing yours. For example, mine took 9 pages like I said eariler because my history was a MAJOR problem. You really need to edit your cities much more or start over a new region. Again as I said, we're looking for quality, not quantity. Unless you want to be accepted, I suggest you start over a new region and this time, take the time to build your cities. Look at other CJs around here in the European section, you'll get some nice ideas for your cities.

One thing, DON'T MAKE EVERYTHING TO GRID LIKE!!!!!

-Good luck! You got potenial and I think you can get accepted. Smile

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Post by Sirron kcuhc 7th December 2010, 01:32

Goodish news, I've got someone to make Matinenda into an island (Dun worry, it'll be good for the Cj Laugh) But it will take a month and he said that the coastal cities I would have are done for (Eltrayton will die) but I will get time to plan. Admin: Please do not add this to the rejected applications. When the map is done I'll make the new application on this forum. So until then go ahead and suggest some downloads (Euro ones) I will also restart my CJ.
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Post by Daniel 7th December 2010, 01:57

That's fine. Applications frequently stay open for a while. It's always better to take some time to get it right.

Your application will remain where it is. Keep us updated on your progress! Smile
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Post by StanislavSoltys 8th December 2010, 03:05

Try Feroxx's, hope your registered on SC4D, link

EDIT: Try a slope mod, out of all this one works for me, link, I use medium.


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Post by Sirron kcuhc 10th December 2010, 22:49

National Flag
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To be changed. The only thing to change though are the little stars surrounding the big star. They represent the states of Matinenda. The middle is Matinenda itself.

National Coat of Arms
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Location
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Nation Name (Longest Official Form): Socialist Republic of Matinenda
Nation Name (Native Form): Matinenda
National Anthem: God Serve the Land
National Motto: Help Those Who'd Help You.

Official Language(s): Matinedian, French, Italian, English
Population: 15,564,466
Religion: Atheism 46%, Catholic 34%, Protestant 9%, Other 7%, Jewish 3%

SIRRON ISLAND, MATINENDA HASN'T BEEN MADE YET:

Matinenda Island N/A yet. Its production will start on December 17th (Guy who's making it is dealing with exam.)

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Sirron Island Pictures:

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History:

357Bc: Matinendian Republic made, still unknown to rest of world.

173Bc: Roman Warriors on boat see island on their way to Carthage, but all die at battle.

14Bc: Matinenda is discovered by Romans, they take the land over.

476AD: When West Rome dies, Matinenda becomes independent (Invaders never knew about the island)
At this time Matinenda made an army for self defense, and they also claimed Sirron Island (A local Matinendian discovered the small island while under Rome)

1521: France invaders attempt to take-over land, but fail.

1913: Matinenda made a peace treaty with Germany, France, UK, Russia, Hungarian Empire, and Italy after noticing conflict in Europe. It was set to last for 35 years.

1942: Germany takes over Matinenda in hard fought battle, and the the expiration of the Treaty left them vulnerable for attack. (Lasted Until 1938 and Matinenda didn't think a new one would be needed.)

1944: Matinenda kicks Nazis out of the island.

1980: Matinenda has an economic boon. While that a new flag is made to show how far they have gotten. (Current flag)

2010: Hopes to join the AIN and make relations with possible ally countries.


NOTE RIGHT NOW THAT THE CITY PICTURES ARE ONLY WITH MEDIUM QUALITY ON SC4, THE HIGH QUALITY SLOWS MY GAME DOWN AND I ONLY REMEMBERED ABOUT IT UNTIL I ALREADY GOT THE PICTURES. SO THAT'S WHY THEY AREN'T THE BEST GRAPHICALLY, BUT THEY ARE EURO HOPEFULLY.


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Post by Evillions 11th December 2010, 00:04

Alright... You have improved, but still I'm not a fan of this. Speechless Sorry, but it really doesn't appeal to me because I felt that you could've done a much better job.

1. The buildings are abondoned, fix that please.
2. The placement of the buildings seem like a "smack and dab!" feel to me. Personally, I don't think its a good idea to even do that.
3. Add more trees in undeveloped areas, at least it looks better than having a plain terrain.
4. The history needs more detail and try to base it on a country that your nation's region is on. It makes it more realistic as well as more interesting.
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Although this application is still far from voting, with improvement. This can be a great CJ!! Laugh

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Post by StanislavSoltys 11th December 2010, 00:20

Looks better, but wouldn't Sirron Island have been discovered in the first century b.c. at least? And Mediterranean cities have buildings with clay rooves and walls, maybe search for buildings like that and try them in your cities.
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Post by hiigarar 11th December 2010, 00:22

Hey get improvements you are on the right path! ))))

About history - there are a few question.
'357Bc: Matinendian Republic made, still unknown to rest of world."
Well the problem whit that is that there wore many nations in that region in 4 B.C. especially for that region Carthage Empire which controlled Sardinia and well most of Morocco, part of Spain and Romans controlled Corsica already. And well there wore even greek settlements in modern part where Marseilles is right now. So it would be hard for your nation to be not known in that region at that time.

"1521: British invaders attempt to take-over land, but fail." - If i am correct there is no nation as British in this period if i am wrong sorry. But still it is much possible that your nation would be invaded by France or Spain. Being that in this period or in 1526 or 1527 don't really remember Rome was sieged and taken by Spanish armies. So there is more possibility of attacks of these two states then of England

"1930: Large amount of American population move to Matinenda for safe-haven from economic depression." - Never remember a period of american history when its become like Europe and population goes back for Europe. Maybe except Liberia. but still not many americans left to Liberia.



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Post by Sirron kcuhc 11th December 2010, 13:47

I have just changed the history and got an abandonment mod
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Post by Sirron kcuhc 12th December 2010, 03:37

National Flag
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To be changed. The only thing to change though are the little stars surrounding the big star. They represent the states of Matinenda. The middle is Matinenda itself.

National Coat of Arms
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Location
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Nation Name (Longest Official Form): Socialist Republic of Matinenda
Nation Name (Native Form): Matinenda
National Anthem: God Serve the Land
National Motto: Help Those Who'd Help You.

Official Language(s): Matinedian, French, Italian
Population: 15,564,466
Religion: Atheism 46%, Catholic 34%, Protestant 9%, Other 7%, Jewish 3%

SIRRON ISLAND, MATINENDA HASN'T BEEN MADE YET:

Matinenda Island N/A yet. Its production will start on December 17th (Guy who's making it is dealing with exam.)

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Sirron Island Pictures:

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NOTE NOW THAT I AM CURRENTLY WORKING TO FIX THE BOXES. I AM SO FAR UNSUCCESSFUL BUT I'M STILL TRYING.

History:

357Bc: Matinendian Republic made, still unknown to rest of world.

173Bc: Roman Warriors on boat see island on their way to Carthage, but all die at battle.

14Bc: Matinenda is discovered by Romans, they take the land over.

476AD: When West Rome dies, Matinenda becomes independent (Invaders never knew about the island)
At this time Matinenda made an army for self defense, and they also claimed Sirron Island (A local Matinendian discovered the small island while under Rome)

1521: France invaders attempt to take-over land, but fail.

1913: Matinenda made a peace treaty with Germany, France, UK, Russia, Hungarian Empire, and Italy after noticing conflict in Europe. It was set to last for 35 years.

1942: Germany takes over Matinenda in hard fought battle, and the the expiration of the Treaty left them vulnerable for attack. (Lasted Until 1938 and Matinenda didn't think a new one would be needed.)

1944: Matinenda kicks Nazis out of the island.

1980: Matinenda has an economic boon. While that a new flag is made to show how far they have gotten. (Current flag)

2010: Hopes to join the AIN and make relations with possible ally countries.


Anything wrong now?
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Post by StanislavSoltys 12th December 2010, 05:04

Better, but for some reason, the Maxis is bothering me (by maxis I mean the jails, police stations, etc from maxis), the jail seems out of place, and so is that watertower by the Parisian Opera building.
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Post by Sirron kcuhc 12th December 2010, 05:08

I don't have Maxis. I use Peangs Urban Jails and a Police Station/Fire station mix. But I have more of those so I could use different ones if you'd like?
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Post by Jo 12th December 2010, 07:11

and there is brown boxes ur missing a dependency somewhere
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Post by Sirron kcuhc 12th December 2010, 14:29

I know I do have missing dependencies, I stated that. I've finally found the item and have re downloaded all the dependencies. So I need to do is make sure it works.
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Post by Sirron kcuhc 12th December 2010, 16:39

National Flag
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To be changed. The only thing to change though are the little stars surrounding the big star. They represent the states of Matinenda. The middle is Matinenda itself.

National Coat of Arms
Approved: Observer | Matinenda - Page 4 Coat_o10

Location
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Nation Name (Longest Official Form): Socialist Republic of Matinenda
Nation Name (Native Form): Matinenda
National Anthem: God Serve the Land
National Motto: Help Those Who'd Help You.

Official Language(s): Matinedian, French, Italian
Population: 15,564,466
Religion: Atheism 46%, Catholic 34%, Protestant 9%, Other 7%, Jewish 3%

SIRRON ISLAND, MATINENDA HASN'T BEEN MADE YET:

Matinenda Island N/A yet. Its production will start on December 17th (Guy who's making it is dealing with exam.)

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Sirron Island Pictures:

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History:

357Bc: Matinendian Republic made, still unknown to rest of world.

173Bc: Roman Warriors on boat see island on their way to Carthage, but all die at battle.

14Bc: Matinenda is discovered by Romans, they take the land over.

476AD: When West Rome dies, Matinenda becomes independent (Invaders never knew about the island)
At this time Matinenda made an army for self defense, and they also claimed Sirron Island (A local Matinendian discovered the small island while under Rome)

1521: France invaders attempt to take-over land, but fail.

1913: Matinenda made a peace treaty with Germany, France, UK, Russia, Hungarian Empire, and Italy after noticing conflict in Europe. It was set to last for 35 years.

1942: Germany takes over Matinenda in hard fought battle, and the the expiration of the Treaty left them vulnerable for attack. (Lasted Until 1938 and Matinenda didn't think a new one would be needed.)

1944: Allied forces wipe out Nazis in Matinenda

1980: Matinenda has an economic boon. While that a new flag is made to show how far they have gotten. (Current flag)

2010: Hopes to join the AIN and make relations with possible ally countries.


What else?


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Post by Blakeway4 12th December 2010, 19:40

I'm good with it, Laugh Maybe just a better history than "we kick out Nazis!" LOL
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Post by Sirron kcuhc 13th December 2010, 14:26

I could make something new for that. So is Matinenda ready for Observership?
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Post by Thomas 13th December 2010, 17:35

Voting open - and voted.
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